Dear colleagues,
As discussed in the meeting of today, I would like to propose adding a new field to the MME header to identify the data source type:
Type of data source: <Simulation | Hardware>
Rationale:
Euro NCAP is proposing a similar field in their data formats to distinguish between simulation-based tests and physical tests. Incorporating this into MME would:
Improve data traceability and interpretation
Align with evolving industry standards
Support mixed virtual/physical testing workflows
This would be a simple addition with broad applicability across all MME-based test data.
I welcome your feedback on this proposal.
Best regards,
Miguel Ángel Gallego
Proposal for New MME Header Field - Data Source Type
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Re: Proposal for New MME Header Field - Data Source Type
Dear Miguel,
I checked in the ENCAP documents and found the following requirements:
CP005 V1.4
CA004 V1.3
So, actually the need to align the documents, but they will be consistent with your proposal.
In my opinion this is a sensible extension to be included in RED A (and later in the official documents for V2 also).
More and more ratings start to add simulation to their rating scheme.
The already existing descriptors "Type of the test" and "Subtype of the test" could also be used in adding
the "category" text, but in the past we have seen that different Labs/OEMs do already have a fixed set of
entries for these descriptors.
Therefore, a separate descriptor will be best.
We can then define fixed classification items to be used.
Are there more variants to think of for this category?
In each measurement channels there is already a descriptor that defined the Data source.
When using the easily noticeable descriptor in the test descriptor file (*.mme) these
channel descriptors must be consistent!
Kind regards,
Dirk
I checked in the ENCAP documents and found the following requirements:
CP005 V1.4
- 2026-05-13 10_11_24-cp-005-data-acquisition-and-injury-calculation-v14_IAT - PDF-XChange Editor.png (12.12 KiB) Viewed 18 times
- 2026-05-13 10_12_51-CA 004 - Data Acquisition and Assessment Criteria Calculation v1.3 - PDF-XChange.png (64.95 KiB) Viewed 18 times
So, actually the need to align the documents, but they will be consistent with your proposal.
In my opinion this is a sensible extension to be included in RED A (and later in the official documents for V2 also).
More and more ratings start to add simulation to their rating scheme.
The already existing descriptors "Type of the test" and "Subtype of the test" could also be used in adding
the "category" text, but in the past we have seen that different Labs/OEMs do already have a fixed set of
entries for these descriptors.
Therefore, a separate descriptor will be best.
We can then define fixed classification items to be used.
Are there more variants to think of for this category?
In each measurement channels there is already a descriptor that defined the Data source.
When using the easily noticeable descriptor in the test descriptor file (*.mme) these
channel descriptors must be consistent!
- 2026-05-13 10_32_36-ISO_TS13499_RED_A_V16Rev3_20260223.png (69.82 KiB) Viewed 18 times
Dirk